{"id":1970,"date":"2026-09-15T20:04:18","date_gmt":"2026-09-15T20:04:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fossecommune.com\/?p=1970"},"modified":"2026-09-15T20:05:08","modified_gmt":"2026-09-15T20:05:08","slug":"then-comes-silence-le-chinois-montreuil-goth-rock-decloisonnement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fossecommune.com\/index.php\/2026\/09\/15\/then-comes-silence-le-chinois-montreuil-goth-rock-decloisonnement\/","title":{"rendered":"THEN COMES SILENCE, LE GOTH ROCK ET LA GRANDE QUESTION DU D\u00c9CLOISONNEMENT"},"content":{"rendered":"

Then Comes Silence au Chinois \u00e0 Montreuil : le trio su\u00e9dois de \u00ab loud dark rock \u00bb pose une question derri\u00e8re son excellent concert. Pourquoi les sc\u00e8nes goth, post-punk et rock restent-elles encore si cloisonn\u00e9es dans les programmations ?<\/h2>\n

(Ou comment j\u2019ai fini en nouille vapeur en me demandant pourquoi Micheline avait d\u00e9cloisonn\u00e9 avant les festivals)<\/em><\/p>\n

J\u2019avais pourtant pr\u00e9venu tout le monde : Then Comes Silence<\/strong> vient de Su\u00e8de. C\u2019est sombre, c\u2019est froid, c\u2019est tendu.<\/p>\n

J\u2019ai fini en nouille vapeur.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Premi\u00e8re fois pour moi au Chinois<\/strong> \u00e0 Montreuil. Une salle roots, sympa, une sc\u00e8ne \u00e0 port\u00e9e de main et un syst\u00e8me de ventilation reposant manifestement sur la pri\u00e8re.<\/p>\n

On \u00e9tait quelque part entre le concert post-punk et le panier en osier.<\/p>\n

Perso, j\u2019adore cette ambiance.<\/p>\n

Mais j\u2019ai transpir\u00e9 des genoux quand m\u00eame.<\/p>\n

En poussant la porte, je suis tomb\u00e9e nez \u00e0 nez avec Alex Svenson, chanteur et bassiste de Then Comes Silence, tranquillement install\u00e9 au merch.<\/p>\n

Or j\u2019avais \u00e9crit quelques jours plus t\u00f4t qu\u2019il donnait envie de tout plaquer pour aller \u00e9lever du poisson nordique.<\/p>\n

Mon cerveau a imm\u00e9diatement cess\u00e9 toute activit\u00e9 sup\u00e9rieure.<\/p>\n

Et la temp\u00e9rature est mont\u00e9e d\u2019un cran suppl\u00e9mentaire.<\/p>\n

Troisi\u00e8me contr\u00f4le technique de la Volvo su\u00e9doise<\/h2>\n

Sur sc\u00e8ne, c\u2019\u00e9tait la troisi\u00e8me fois en quelques mois que je les voyais et, une nouvelle fois, aucune surprise.<\/p>\n

Then Comes Silence a fait du Then Comes Silence.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Et c\u2019\u00e9tait cool as fuck.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Troisi\u00e8me contr\u00f4le technique de la Volvo su\u00e9doise : rien \u00e0 signaler.<\/p>\n

\u00c0 part la temp\u00e9rature.<\/p>\n

Et l\u2019\u00e9clairage qui avait respect\u00e9 la r\u00e9glementation des petites salles :<\/p>\n

1 200 watts pour le son.<\/strong><\/p>\n

14 leds pour les musiciens.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Une centrale nucl\u00e9aire dans la grosse caisse visible de l\u2019ISS.<\/strong><\/p>\n

De la fum\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

Et un groupe archi-rod\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Si vous ne fr\u00e9quentez pas ce circuit, il est parfaitement possible que vous ne les connaissiez pas.<\/p>\n

Et pourtant, ce ne sont pas des perdreaux de l\u2019ann\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

Le groupe existe depuis 2012. Des albums, des kilom\u00e8tres, l\u2019Europe, les \u00c9tats-Unis, l\u2019Am\u00e9rique latine, de gros festivals de la sc\u00e8ne dark, un passage chez Nuclear Blast puis Metropolis\u2026<\/p>\n

Des routiers.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Musicalement, Alex Svenson a trouv\u00e9 lui-m\u00eame la meilleure d\u00e9finition : \u00ab loud dark rock \u00bb.<\/p>\n

Fort. Sombre. Rock.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Et puis j\u2019ai regard\u00e9 autour de moi<\/h2>\n

Pour un lundi soir, la salle \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s honorablement remplie.<\/p>\n

Mais surtout, le public \u00e9tait beaucoup moins uniforme que l\u2019\u00e9tiquette \u00ab goth rock \u00bb pourrait le laisser imaginer.<\/p>\n

Du goth, certes.<\/p>\n

Du post-punk.<\/p>\n

Du noir r\u00e9glementaire.<\/p>\n

Des looks travaill\u00e9s.<\/p>\n

Et des Micheline.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Beaucoup.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Vous voyez Micheline.<\/p>\n

Elle sort de son boulot chez AXA et n\u2019a pas eu le temps de se changer.<\/p>\n

\u00c0 17 h 42, elle traitait peut-\u00eatre un d\u00e9g\u00e2t des eaux.<\/p>\n

\u00c0 21 h 16, elle hochait la t\u00eate sur une basse su\u00e9doise.<\/p>\n

Personne ne lui avait demand\u00e9 son permis de goth.<\/p>\n

Et, surtout, Micheline avait l\u2019air d\u2019aller tr\u00e8s bien.<\/p>\n

Pourquoi ces groupes sortent-ils si peu de leur propre circuit ?<\/h2>\n

C\u2019est l\u00e0 que j\u2019ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 me poser une question.<\/p>\n

Pourquoi ces groupes sortent-ils si peu de leur propre circuit ?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pourquoi DITZ et Then Comes Silence, Shame et Corpus Delicti, Model\/Actriz et Whispering Sons, Gurriers et Ductape ne pourraient-ils pas avoir acc\u00e8s aux m\u00eames festivals ?<\/p>\n

On me dira qu\u2019une partie d\u2019entre eux rel\u00e8ve du goth rock.<\/p>\n

Certes.<\/p>\n

Mais le goth rock est historiquement une branche du post-punk.<\/p>\n

M\u00eame arbre g\u00e9n\u00e9alogique.<\/p>\n

Et musicalement, les fronti\u00e8res sont beaucoup moins \u00e9tanches.<\/p>\n

Aucun de ces attelages ne provoquerait donc une d\u00e9chirure de l\u2019espace-temps.<\/p>\n

Surtout dans un monde o\u00f9 SCH peut jouer juste avant The HU.<\/p>\n

En outre, j\u2019ai vu dans des festivals rock et post-punk des groupes autrement plus difficiles d\u2019acc\u00e8s et surtout franchement plus mous du genou que la plupart des groupes dits goths.<\/p>\n

J\u2019ai une liste.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Je la tiens \u00e0 disposition.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alors pourquoi ?<\/p>\n

Je pose r\u00e9ellement la question.<\/p>\n

Le public, lui, avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u00e9cloisonn\u00e9<\/h2>\n

Attention : je ne r\u00e9clame pas qu\u2019on les sorte de leur circuit.<\/p>\n

Je m\u2019interroge sur l\u2019\u00e9tanch\u00e9it\u00e9 entre les deux.<\/p>\n

Then Comes Silence est d\u2019ailleurs parfaitement chez lui dans cette sc\u00e8ne.<\/p>\n

Alex Svenson l\u2019a dit lui-m\u00eame.<\/p>\n

Elle lui a donn\u00e9 un public fid\u00e8le, des salles, des festivals et une carri\u00e8re internationale.<\/p>\n

Je ne demande surtout pas qu\u2019on l\u2019en sorte.<\/p>\n

Je m\u2019interroge.<\/p>\n

Parce que ce que j\u2019avais sous les yeux lundi soir, c\u2019\u00e9tait pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment un public qui, lui, avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u00e9cloisonn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Et c\u2019est tr\u00e8s bien.<\/strong><\/p>\n

C\u2019est une belle \u00e9volution.<\/p>\n

D\u2019autant que j\u2019ai connu une sc\u00e8ne beaucoup plus conne avec \u00e7a.<\/p>\n

Au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 90, elle \u00e9tait d\u2019ailleurs au climax de sa connerie.<\/p>\n

Mauvaises chaussures, mauvais tee-shirt, pas assez \u00ab vrai \u00bb : tribunal du goth.<\/p>\n

Et pourtant, trente ans plus tard, Micheline est entr\u00e9e au Chinois directement apr\u00e8s le bureau.<\/p>\n

Elle a \u00e9cout\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Elle est ressortie avec toutes ses dents.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Et si ce n\u2019\u00e9tait plus le public qu\u2019il fallait d\u00e9cloisonner ?<\/h2>\n

Alors je repose la question :<\/p>\n

et si ce n\u2019\u00e9tait plus le public qu\u2019il fallait d\u00e9cloisonner, mais les programmations ?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Promis.<\/p>\n

On ne sacrifie plus de chatons.<\/p>\n

Promis.<\/p>\n

Enfin, pas le lundi.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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